{"id":195260,"date":"2018-11-12T15:42:16","date_gmt":"2018-11-12T14:42:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/?p=195260\/"},"modified":"2018-11-12T19:33:27","modified_gmt":"2018-11-12T18:33:27","slug":"comparative-test-specialized-stumpjumper-vs-stumpjumper-st","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/en\/comparative-test-specialized-stumpjumper-vs-stumpjumper-st\/","title":{"rendered":"[Comparative Test] Specialized Stumpjumper vs. Stumpjumper ST"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>When the most recent revision of the iconic Specialized Stumpjumper was released, it made waves, and for good reason. Looking beyond the aesthetically\u00a0pleasing &#8220;Sidearm&#8221; design, it\u00a0boasts a more aggressive geometry set (which also happens to now be adjustable), a lower leverage ratio, and a handful of very new, very Specialized-esque features that should surprise precisely no one. In the past, I&#8217;ve been a\u00a0somewhat critical of Specialized for taking a cautious, conservative approach\u00a0with the Stumpy &#8211; something I viewed less as an oversight, and more as a careful measure taken to maintain its well deserved position in the market as a benchmark trail bike that casts a wide net. But alas, trail bikes have changed; largely as a response to the\u00a0increasingly aggressive riding that modern mountain bikers expect to subject them to&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-195463\" src=\"https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/IMC_0135.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1600\" height=\"900\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/IMC_0135.jpg 1600w, https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/IMC_0135-750x422.jpg 750w, https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/IMC_0135-768x432.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The birth of the new Stumpjumper\u00a0meant the cannibalization of the Camber\u00a0lineup altogether. After all, it was a bike that looked increasingly timid in a sea of new, aggressive short travel bikes from mid-sized boutique brands\u00a0who are able to react to the market faster than the big dogs. Anyhow, I was happy to see Specialized replace the Camber with the Stumpjumper &#8220;ST&#8221;. Within the updated lineup, there are now Standard and\u00a0<strong>S<\/strong>hort\u00a0<strong>T<\/strong>ravel versions of the Stumpjumper available with both 27.5&#8243; and 29&#8243; wheels. This makes the Stumpy family both large and diverse, but they&#8217;re all cut from the same cloth &#8211; in fact, the standard and ST versions use the same front and rear triangles within a given wheel size. There&#8217;s also the &#8220;EVO&#8221; version, but that&#8217;s an entirely different animal altogether,\u00a0which we&#8217;ll be exploring in the future. As far as this article is concerned, I tested the\u00a0<em>&#8220;snappy and nimble&#8221;<\/em>\u00a0Stumpjumper ST and the\u00a0<em>&#8220;fast and planted&#8221;<\/em>\u00a0Stumpjumper, for a back-to-back comparison\u00a0aboard flagship S-Works models on 29&#8243; wheels. Disclaimer: this isn&#8217;t meant to be read as\u00a0an elitist\u00a0<em>&#8220;which $9,500+ bike is better?&#8221;<\/em>\u00a0puff piece,\u00a0but rather, I aim to look past price points and focus on each platform&#8217;s general pedigree. After all, Specialized offers\u00a0a broad\u00a0spectrum\u00a0of pricing, so you can get in where you fit in.<\/p>\n<h3>Geometry<\/h3>\n<p>Compared to the last iterations, a very welcome, longer reach is seen throughout the entire line. The\u00a0increase varies with size and model, but it&#8217;s up between 10 &#8211; 20mm on average, while chainstay figure remains\u00a0identical for both new 29&#8243; models at 437mm. The head tube angles\u00a0are around 1\u00ba\u00a0slacker for\u00a0more confident handling at speed and on steep descents,\u00a0while the seat tube angles got steeper for\u00a0improved positioning on the\u00a0climbs. Not fully geometry related, but still pertaining to handling and weight distribution, the handlebars got wider (from 750 to 780mm), and dropper posts see more travel (from 125 to 160mm), staying with the times, increasing the bike&#8217;s capability and boosting its confidence.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-195353\" src=\"https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Untitled-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1600\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Untitled-2.jpg 1600w, https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Untitled-2-750x600.jpg 750w, https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Untitled-2-768x614.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Untitled-2-1375x1100.jpg 1375w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Since both Stumpjumper and Stumpjumper ST use the same front and rear ends, one might expect to see very similar numbers, but they do vary between the two models. Both head tube and seat tube angle are exactly 1\u00ba steeper on the ST model, which lends to its more sprightly nature. Oddly enough, the longer travel (150mm front\/140mm rear) Stumpy has a reach that&#8217;s 10mm shorter than the short travel\u00a0(130mm front\/120mm rear) Stumpy ST.\u00a0As you&#8217;d expect, the\u00a0two models\u00a0use shocks with completely different eye-to-eyes\/strokes, but another factor is that Specialized has two different shock yokes driving them as well. More on that further down&#8230;<\/p>\n<h3>Key Differences<\/h3>\n<p>As mentioned prior, this article is less about nit picking spec and parts, but as a general run down the models tested feature SRAM XX1 Eagle 12-speed drivetrains and Guide RSC brakes. Both have proven to be excellent, and more affordable versions of the same platforms are offered at lower price points\u00a0on down the line. The same can be said for the Roval wheels which, in our experience have been excellent at every given pricepoint &#8211; and we have ridden them thoroughly from entry to flagship levels. When it comes to suspension, at the S-Works level, Fox is spec&#8217;d front and rear. Also note that the Stumpy ST is spec&#8217;d with 2.3&#8243; wide tires and the standard Stumpy sees a brawnier 2.6&#8243; wide set.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-195268\" src=\"https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Untitled2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1600\" height=\"838\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Untitled2.jpg 1600w, https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Untitled2-750x393.jpg 750w, https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Untitled2-768x402.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The Stumpjumper ST features a Fox 34 (left), and the standard Stumpjumper sees the much beefier 36. Those numbers designate stanchion size, which correlate directly with handling, stiffness and precision. On RockShox spec&#8217;d Stumpys, like the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.specialized.com\/us\/en\/mens-stumpjumper-st-expert-29\/p\/154271?color=261149-154271\">&#8220;Expert&#8221;<\/a>, ST models see a Pike (35mm stanchion).\u00a0All 29&#8243; models have 51mm of offset.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-195267\" src=\"https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Untitled-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1600\" height=\"838\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Untitled-1.jpg 1600w, https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Untitled-1-750x393.jpg 750w, https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Untitled-1-768x402.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Much like the front end, the models with more travel see a longer, more capable rear shock with a piggy back. The ST has\u00a0a Float DPS at\u00a0190&#215;42.5mm, and the standard Stumpy has a Float DPX2 at\u00a0210x50mm. All shocks in the lineup get custom Specialized &#8220;Rx trail&#8221; tunes as opposed to an A,B,C style stack from a tuning bank. Regarding where the bikes fit in on the Linear to Progressive continuum, the standard Stumpy sits at 16.5% progression, and the ST comes in at a virtually indistinguishable 16.3%. I wouldn&#8217;t consider the Stumpjumper(s) to be super progressive, nor do they fall flat. They&#8217;re pretty linear throughout the travel, but with the help of an air shock, they resist bottoming fairly well.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-195386\" src=\"https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Untitled-3.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1600\" height=\"745\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Untitled-3.jpg 1600w, https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Untitled-3-750x349.jpg 750w, https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Untitled-3-768x358.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>In order to use the same front and rear triangles for two bikes with a 30mm\u00a0difference in travel, some part of the frame obviously has to vary. There are two different yokes\u00a0to drive the rear shock. The ST is on the left pictured above, and sits further forward to make up for the shorter shock. Note: according to Specialized:\u00a0<em>&#8220;No more proprietary BS!&#8221;<\/em>\u00a0Gone is the &#8220;Manchu&#8221; yoke; the new yoke uses a really\u00a0smart cam inside of a standard shock eyelet to adjust between high\/steep and low\/slack with a single 5mm allen key.<\/p>\n<h3>On the trail<\/h3>\n<p>The first bike that I rode was the Stumpjumper ST. I spent a couple of months on it before jumping over to the other bike. Right out of the gate I was blown away &#8211; it is far and away the best handling mountain bike I&#8217;ve ever ridden. Those are big words, and as mentioned prior, I am a sucker for short travel 29&#8243; bikes, so take that for what its worth. The first bike that got me hooked was the first Evil Following, but that was a couple of years ago and while it was eye opening, it was\u00a0by no means perfect. The Stumpjumper ST is\u00a0far more agile, precise in its handling and has an absolutely insane amount of pop.\u00a0A bonus, which applies to both\u00a0Stumpies\u00a0is the brilliant SWAT downtube storage system, which sees 20%\u00a0more volume this year.\u00a0Say goodbye to\u00a0hydration pack swamp back. Other prop worthy points are the 200mm\/180mm rotor combos across the line, the SWAT CC headlock\/chaintool\/multi tool, and a chainstay protector that keeps things real quiet\u00a0via its brilliant design.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-195390\" src=\"https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/IMC3469.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1600\" height=\"1065\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/IMC3469.jpg 1600w, https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/IMC3469-750x499.jpg 750w, https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/IMC3469-768x511.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Anyhow &#8211; getting back to the ride characteristics, the ST&#8217;s boosty nature is likely best attributed to its brilliant carbon layup, and not solely due to\u00a0well crafted\u00a0angles and smart suspension. Speaking of suspension, while it was well tuned, I do have a couple of small points of contention. First off &#8211; as the ST version is SO capable of swinging above its weight, personally I&#8217;d prefer to see it spec&#8217;d with a reservoir shock and a stouter 36 fork up front. The modest weight penalty would make it better equipped for longer, rougher descents and\u00a0heavier abuse. It could be a fluke, but I did end up with a\u00a0hair\u00a0of bushing play in the 34 after just a couple of months. Fox doesn&#8217;t make a 36 at 130mm travel, and they probably don&#8217;t make the DPX2 in a smaller 190 X 42.5mm size, but my point is that\u00a0the\u00a0short-ish amount of travel doesn&#8217;t hold the bike\u00a0back\u00a0one bit. It begs for more, is an absolute blast to ride and the handling is just razor sharp &#8211; words can&#8217;t possibly convey how intuitive it is. I&#8217;ve never ridden any bike that treaded the fine line between arcing and drifting a turn so beautifully and confidently at such a wide range of speeds.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-195391\" src=\"https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/IMC3608.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1600\" height=\"1065\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/IMC3608.jpg 1600w, https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/IMC3608-750x499.jpg 750w, https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/IMC3608-768x511.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Shifting gears and hopping onto the standard Stumpjumper, I found a bike that, due to\u00a0its additional travel, was more capable on difficult, foreign terrain, although it came at the expense of some sprightliness. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, it still handled incredibly well and I appreciated the stiffer, calmer suspension bits. So far in my testing, I&#8217;ve had a general aversion to long travel 29&#8243; bikes as I typically don&#8217;t feel like I&#8217;m &#8220;in it&#8221;, but rather sitting a bit high on the bike. Although 140mm is not &#8220;long travel&#8221; by any means, I did settle into the Stumpjumper very nicely.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks to a nudge from Sean Estes &#8211; the PR guy at Specialized &#8211; I rode both bikes with both tire sizes.\u00a0For what it&#8217;s worth, I liked both bikes better with the opposite of what was spec&#8217;d for tires. Perhaps that was because with\u00a02.6&#8217;s on the\u00a0ST, it had more cush and confidence. Conversely, on the standard Stumpy, with 2.3&#8217;s, the bike became a bit more nimble, and light on its feet, without feeling like it gave up much in terms of capability. The tire swap put less of a divide between the two models in terms of overall attitude.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-195388\" src=\"https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/IMC3327.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1600\" height=\"1065\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/IMC3327.jpg 1600w, https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/IMC3327-750x499.jpg 750w, https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/IMC3327-768x511.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Now for the\u00a0less exciting part. When it came to climbing, it&#8217;s\u00a0not far from\u00a0a wash between the two models. Body positioning on both bikes felt about the same &#8211; the seat tube angle isn&#8217;t crazy steep, but\u00a0left me upright\u00a0enough and\u00a0at around\u00a074-75\u00ba it&#8217;s up to par with modern figures, making it easy to shift your weight up front on the steeper bits. Speaking more from the kinematic side, FSR is good, although\u00a0there are other\u00a0bikes out there that are more neutral under power. DW-Link\/Split Pivot bikes certainly come to mind&#8230;In any case, on long fire road grinds, the full lock out was appropriate on both bikes, and trail mode was ideal for rougher, more technical climbs. Weighing in at just over a pound less (26.8lbs vs. 28.0lbs) and having smaller tires, the ST model was a bit zippier uphill, but in the long run, both bikes climbed very well, leaving little to complain about. Compared to many other\u00a0bikes in the short travel, aggressive 29&#8243; category, the ST is a easier to get back up the hill and more well rounded.<\/p>\n<h3>Overall<\/h3>\n<p>The simplest takeaway here is that if you have the luxury of owning more than one mountain bike, the Stumpjumper ST is the gravity oriented rider&#8217;s perfect &#8220;other&#8221; bike. It will compliment\u00a0a long travel 27.5&#8243; Enduro as\u00a0the perfect all day, light duty bike for big rides on snappier, flowier terrain where you simply don&#8217;t need as much bike. The nice thing about the adjustable geometry is that it&#8217;s not<em> just<\/em> a gravity rider&#8217;s bike. Particularly in the high setting (I mostly rode it in low), it&#8217;s a very balanced bike that leans a bit more conservative. In high\/steep, consider it\u00a0similar\u00a0to a Camber, but with a bit more attitude, versatility and a geometry update. Oh, and a lot more pop&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Now &#8211; if you\u00a0only have room in your garage and\/or wallet for\u00a0one mountain bike &#8211; well, the standard Stumpjumper is about as do-it-all as it gets. It&#8217;s a highly capable, mid-travel bike with big wheels, wrapped in big-ish tires. It has limits, but it will get you down 90% of the riding you&#8217;ll encounter. Add in the brilliance of the SWAT downtube and there&#8217;s little to complain about as a &#8220;one and done&#8221; bike for the average ripper.<\/p>\n<p>What&#8217;s praise worthy between both models is that\u00a0Specialized really stepped it up and made the bikes more aggressive and capable in every aspect. They\u00a0absolutely nailed it with\u00a0sizing, geo, suspension and specs. That said, they played their cards right and didn&#8217;t lose sight of what the Stumpy is all about &#8211; versatility. Having the &#8220;flip chip&#8221; makes it so that these bikes can be set up on the conservative side\u00a0should you choose. In my review summaries, I always talk value. Since this is a comparative review of two flagship bikes, here&#8217;s my final word. If it were my money, without question, I&#8217;d buy the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.specialized.com\/us\/en\/mens-stumpjumper-st-expert-29\/p\/154271?color=261149-154271\">Expert ST<\/a>\u00a0model. For $5,500 USD, it has an excellent overall spec; it even boasts carbon fiber Roval wheels on DT hubs, which happen to have been treating me very well the last few months. On paper, it\u00a0looks\u00a0to be very tough to beat.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.specialized.com\">www.specialized.com<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When the most recent revision of the iconic Specialized Stumpjumper was released, it made waves, and for good reason. Looking beyond the aesthetically\u00a0pleasing &#8220;Sidearm&#8221; design, it\u00a0boasts a more aggressive geometry set (which also happens to now be adjustable), a lower leverage ratio, and a handful of very new, very Specialized-esque features that should surprise precisely no one. In the past, I&#8217;ve been a\u00a0somewhat critical of Specialized for taking a cautious, conservative approach\u00a0with the Stumpy &#8211; something I viewed less as an oversight, and more as a careful measure taken to maintain its well deserved position in the market as a<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":170425,"featured_media":195463,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[3683,3677],"tags":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v19.3 (Yoast SEO v19.7.2) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>[Comparative Test] Specialized Stumpjumper vs. Stumpjumper ST | MTB-MAG.COM<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.mtb-mag.com\/en\/comparative-test-specialized-stumpjumper-vs-stumpjumper-st\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"[Comparative Test] Specialized Stumpjumper vs. Stumpjumper ST\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"When the most recent revision of the iconic Specialized Stumpjumper was released, it made waves, and for good reason. 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