censimento Mantis italia

folinhouse

Biker ultra
Allora, a parte Tomac che ha una flyng-V...
Qui dove vivo io, anzi a 300 mt da casa c'è la raceware, aliasa Mauro Bertolotto, alias il primo importatore di mantis.
L'altro giorno mi ha aperto il capanno e dentro oltre ad una bow-ti, c'erano una flyng-v, una pro-floater e in scatola un sacco di altro ancora, compresa una screaming.
A Venezia c'è Alessandro Memo che fu uno dei primi acquirenti diretti di Cunningham e non ho ancora capito bene quante ne abbia, comunquq tante!
Capisci ora perchè devi venire al raduno?
ci dovrebbero essere sia Mauro che Alessandro!
 

alasa

Biker superis
7/6/03
422
0
0
Visita sito
sto cercando di completare la collezione con il Valkyrie carro basso ma e' veramente rarissimo.
Nel frattempo guarda anche le Merlin in galleria
 

Tomac

Biker infernalis
8/4/03
1.803
4
0
46
San donà di Piave
Visita sito
Invia a 1000......ma ho pure io qualcosa di succulento.... :-P

Una flying V è in possesso di girandolafunesta, prima apparteneva ad un mio amico...ed in teoria dovevo acquistarla io. Meglio dire che -era- un amico...forse. A me è stata proposta ad un cifra assurda poi ho sentito a che prezzo è andata.
 

girandolafunesta

Biker forumensus
18/11/02
2.230
1
0
48
Casalgrande (RE)
Visita sito
la mia....quella dell'_amico_ di Tomac è tuttora sverniciata e smontata nell'armadio della commozione....

Cerco disperatamente qualche anima pia che mi rifaccia i passaggi cavo vicino alla serie sterzo..che erano inutilizzabili,e se ne è salvato solo 1.....tu buon Tomac non lavori in officina?...il lavoro è semplice un bussolotto saldato su una vite.....ma nessuno me li vuol fare!!!
 

alasa

Biker superis
7/6/03
422
0
0
Visita sito
Ragazzi se potete postate una foto e il numero seriale,
si dovrebbe trovare sotto la scatola movimento, o nei primissimi modelli in basso sul tubo verticale.
Qui di seguito come promesso informazioni sulla produzione,

Mantis model Timeline:
1981: Mantis was founded by Richard Cunningham, current editor of Mountain Bike Action magazine.
1983: The 1983 models were Sherpa ($850 frame $1595 bike), Overland ($750 frame), XCR ($850 frame $1695 bike)
1987: the XCR sells for about $1,750.
1990: Debut of the Flying V aluminum monocoque main frame and cro-moly bolt-on rear end. Mantis begins exploration of a full suspension design.
1992: All models were redesigned to tackle the new world of suspension: The Flying V is available in three sizes, uses sealed press-in bottom bracket, 26.8 mm seat post, 1" head tube only and designed to be used with a suspension fork. The XCR is now all welded aluminum with elevated stays (possibly only 3 frame built in this configuration). The XCR uses 22.2 mm seat stays, 25.4 mm chain stays and a 35 mm seat tube. The bottom bracket is a sealed press in unit, 26.8 mm seat post, 1" standard (1 1/8" optional) head tube and cable routing to work with top or bottom pull derailleurs. Sizes are 16" through 22" in 1" increments. The Valkyrie is welded True Temper OX Cro-moly tubing and features elevated stays. The 1992 model uses a conventional single top tube (as opposed to the older models multi-tube top tube), 68 mm threaded bottom bracket, 26.8 mm seat post and 1" head set. Suspension corrected geometry in 16", 18" and 20" sizes. The full suspension Pro Floater uses an aluminum frame and swing arm with a steel strut. The bottom bracket is a sealed press-in unit, head tube is 1", seat post is 26.8 mm and is recommended for a 2" suspension fork. Sizes are 16", 18" and 20". Pro Floater chassis were farmed out to Redline for production.
1993: models listed as XCR, Flying V and Pro-Floater
1994: The company was bought out in late 1994 by two former Bell employees.
1997: models were the same.
Sherpa: Pretty conventional cro-moly steel frame. One of the first models from Mantis when they started building bikes in 1981.
XCR: The XCR was introduced in the early-mid 80's. It was built in 2, perhaps 3 versions. From its beginning until 1990 or 1991 it was a traditional design with aluminum front triangle and bolt on Cro-mo rear triangle. In 1990 or 1991 the XCR received the elevated rear end. Production stopped in 1993 I believe with a few leftovers being sold in 1994. All these frames had 1" head tubes, press fit BBs and 26.8mm seat posts. There were a few customs with 1 1/8 and 1 1/4" head tubes and some had threaded BBs. The frames came stock with straight blade rigid forks and stems. The very early models had custom Mantis stems and the rest of them came with Salsa roller stems. A 3rd version was in the works and I don't know if any were produced or if it was still in the prototype stage when the company was sold. It was an all aluminum XCR with elevated stays...again to reduce the weight in response to team riders requests. It was of all welded construction. There were handful of prototypes of this for sure.

Valkyrie: The Valkyrie was made from the mid 80-s until about 1990. I think they stopped making them when the Flying-V was introduced. Available in both non-elevated and elevated designs with 1" head tube and press fit BB (although I know your frame is threaded and I'm sure there were a few other customs like that). I don't know the seat post size but I assume it was 26.8mm as that seemed to be Richards size. I'm not sure if any of these came with Mantis stems as all of them that I've seen had the Salsa Pro Moto roller stem. Straight blade rigid fork also standard.

Flying V: The Flying V was introduced in 1990 I believe. Elevated Cro-mo bolt on stays, press fit BB, 1" head tube, 26.8mm seat tube. This frame remained the same until 1995 when it was made entirely of aluminum to lower the weight and also received the changes listed above. At some point the monocoque section began to have the "Mantis" stamped into the frame. The early versions just had decals with the name. I estimate this happened in 1993ish. Another change was in the rear end. Some of the bolt on rear triangles had reinforcement tubes running between the canti bosses and the chain stays and some did not. I do not know when this happened. The R Cunningham Flying V's came stock with a straight blade rigid fork and Salsa roller stem Here are a few pics of variations on the Flying V. This first picture is a 1995-97 version with stamped "Mantis", all aluminum construction and standard stays. The second picture is a frame with the stamped front and non connected seat and chain stays. The third picture is of a first yr Flying V with the chain and seat stays connected at the brake post and with vinyl "Mantis". The frames with the stamped "Mantis" that I have seen also seem to have undergone more finishing; the welds that join the 2 halves of the monocoque section at the head tube were filed down smooth so it looks like one piece whereas the older frames with the vinyl decals still have visible welds on the front of the head tube.

Screaming V:
Pro Floater: Pro Floater from 1991-1994 had a round aluminum swing arm and a Cro-mo rear strut. Seatpost was 26.8mm, 1" head tube and press fit BB. The very early ones had both chain stays somewhat elevated and used Marzocchi rear shocks. The majority of them came with Noleen rear shocks and had the drive side stay elevated and the non-drive stay straight. The swing arm was usually painted the color of the frame. From 1995-1997 the frames had 28.6mm posts, 68mm threaded BBs, and 1 1/8" head tubes. The swing arm was beefier and now box section and the strut was aluminum as well. Some of them also received a CNC machined piece that the main swing arm pivot was on as opposed to the normal round tube found in the 1st generation frames. As a side note I don't know if they switched painters but the 1995-1997 Pro Floater paint jobs were terrible. They chip very easily.
 

alasa

Biker superis
7/6/03
422
0
0
Visita sito
Ci conosciamo abbastanza bene,
e' gia' un po' che non lo vedo; sono stato un buon cliente,
prima con Mantis poi con Seven........
Vado spesso in bici con suo fratello, che utilizza tuttora un Valkyrie carro alto con forcella Pace!!!!!!!!
 

alasa

Biker superis
7/6/03
422
0
0
Visita sito
Ragazzi cerchiamo di fare un censimento, almeno ci sto provando io.
Se conoscete qualcuno che ha delle Mantis, fatemi sapere, vorremmo
fare un registro storico.
Vi ringrazio in anticipo
Ciao
Andrea
 

alasa

Biker superis
7/6/03
422
0
0
Visita sito
Allora comincio io.
In casa ho
-XCR carro basso 18"
-XCR carro alto 18"
-XCR carro alto 19"
-XCR full AL
-Valkyrie carro alto 20"
-Flying V 18" lungo decals
-Flying V 18" lungo no decals
-Flying V 18" corto no decals
-Pro Floater 1 22"

Da cosa si dice dovrebbero esserne stati importati circa 140-150,
alcuni arrivano dall'estero, quindi considerando i telai rotti, dovebbero restarne ancora un bel po' in giro.
Nei giorni prossimi faro' una lista di quelli che conosco, o se volete
potete postare anche Voi, grazie!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

FlyingV

Biker popularis
8/4/05
78
0
0
Genova
Visita sito
Allora comincio io.
In casa ho
-XCR carro basso 18"
-XCR carro alto 18"
-XCR carro alto 19"
-XCR full AL
-Valkyrie carro alto 20"
-Flying V 18" lungo decals
-Flying V 18" lungo no decals
-Flying V 18" corto no decals
-Pro Floater 1 22"

Da cosa si dice dovrebbero esserne stati importati circa 140-150,
alcuni arrivano dall'estero, quindi considerando i telai rotti, dovebbero restarne ancora un bel po' in giro.
Nei giorni prossimi faro' una lista di quelli che conosco, o se volete
potete postare anche Voi, grazie!!!!!!!!!!!!



Mi sa che sia inutile farti l'elenco, le mie bici dovresti conoscerle molto bene:
-Xcr carro alto 18"
-Flying V 18" decals
-Pro Floater 1°serie 18"
Se valgono anche quelle della II generazione:
-Flying V HT 18" decals
-Pro Floater 2°serie 18"

A breve i numeri di serie!
 

Classifica mensile dislivello positivo